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La DGA lance la réalisation de série du PVP

La délégation générale pour l'armement vient de notifier le contrat de production en série du petit véhicule protégé (PVP) à la société nouvelle des automobiles Auverland (SNAA). Le contrat de 40 M€ pour 314 véhicules est la première tranche de l'opération s'élevant à 108 millions d'euros pour l'ensemble du parc automobile (933 matériels), l'industrialisation et le soutien.

soit 115 756€ par véhicule nu.

Spain is Buying 100 South African RG-31Mod5 Armored Vehicles

General Dynamics Santa Barbara Sistemas has been awarded a 64.6 million Euro ($102 million) contract by the Spanish Government to supply RG-31 Mk5E mine protected vehicles for the Army. The contract calls for the delivery of 100 vehicles - 85 Armored Personnel Carriers (APCs), 10 Ambulances and 5 Command Post variants. Spain has options to buy 80 additional vehicles of this class, to be partly assembled in Spain. Each vehicle will be equipped with Remotely Controlled Weapon Station (RCWS). Spain previously opted for the Israeli Samson RCWS. To be delivered through 2009. The prime contractor for the program is General Dynamics Santa Barbara Sistemas offering program management and support while BAE Systems Land Systems OMC of South Africa, acting as leading subcontractor, will supply the vehicles. General Dynamics Land Systems-Canada (Ottawa) has a similar program with BAE Systems Land Systems OMC for this vehicle, offering these vehicles to the Canadian forces in Afghanistan

646 000€ par véhicule.

soit 940 000 $ par véhicule.

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Winter 2005

Armoured Patrol Vehicles:

On the 9th of December the Danish Army Material Command (DAMC) signed a contract regarding the purchase of 85 Mowag Eagle IV armoured patrol vehicles plus a small number for training and logistic reserve, including initial logistic support and services.

The contract is worth 247 million DKr (approx. US $ 38 mill.).

The contract is part of a larger project with a total value of 420 million DKr (approx. US $ 65 mill.). The remainder of the projects deals with weapon systems, protection equipment, and a command-, control-, communications- and information-system to be mounted on the vehicles.

Production will take place at MOWAG's facility in Kreuzlingen and deliveries will commence in August 2006. Danish companies will be involved in the supply of various components and assemblies.

The vehicles will supersede the ageing Mowag Eagle and some of the un-armoured Mercedes Geländewagen in the role as patrol- and scout-vehicles.

(Danish Army Material Command Press Release, 06 DEC 2005 & Mowag GmbH Press release, 09 DEC 2005)

Pour le Mowag Eagle IV des Danois ça nous donne 447 059$ par véhicule nu et 764 706$  équipé.

In November 2005 the Canadian government contracted General Dynamics Land Systems Canada (GDLS-C) to supply 50 RG-31 Mine Protected Vehicles with an option for 25 additional vehicles under a CAD $60.3 million (US $51.3 million) order (more info on Defense Industry Daily). An option for the procurement of 25 additional vehicles was exercised May 31st, 2006, at a cost of Follow on order (CAD $31 million, US$ 28 million). The Canadian Armored Patrol Vehicle (APV) also known as Nyala incorporates a Kongsberg Protector M151 Remote Weapon Station, and is equipped with a day and night sighting system, which allows the operator to fire the weapon while remaining protected within the vehicle. It also has an enhanced IED protection. The vehicles will be manufactured by BAE Land Systems OMC of South Africa, while GDLS-C will provide ongoing support.

Pour le Canada le RG-31 revient à 1 026 000 US $ pour la première tranche et 1 120 000 US $ pour la deuxième.

pour oublier personne.

Panther CLV

The Panther Command and Liaison Vehicle or Panther CLV is the British Army variant of Iveco LMV. The Panther CLV came from the "Future Command and Liaison Vehicle" (FCLV) project. Design modifications were made by BAE Systems is to be assembled at BAE Systems Land Systems' factory in Newcastle upon Tyne. The Panther seats 4, while the VTLM Lince seats 5. Over 400 Panthers are now being assembled at BAE Systems factory in Newcastle upon Tyne under a £160 million contract. It is intended that the Panther will replace vehicles including Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Tracked) (CVRT), Fighting Vehicle FV 432, Saxon and Land Rover Truck Utility Medium (TUM). [3]

The first Panthers have been delivered to the 1st Mechanised Brigade (United Kingdom) and handfuls are undergoing hot weather trials in Afghanistan. [3]

Ce qui donne 400 000 £ par véhicule.

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Au tour du Buschmaster, la page de wiki donne un prix approximatif de 500 000 US$.

On June 23/06, the Defensie Materieelorganisatie (defence procurement agency, DMO) started an acquisition project that has resulted in the selection of ADI’s Bushmaster. This was an urgent requirement, and was completed in about one month – a timeline that offers ample testament to the contract’s urgency.

Thales subsidiary ADI will supply 25 V-hulled Bushmaster armored patrol vehicles for EUR $24.9 million ($31.7 million at current conversion), 23 of which will be available by August 28 for transport to Afghanistan. The other 2 will be used back in Holland for training. Each vehicle can carry up to 8 soldiers + 2 crew at speeds of up to 90 km/h. Of these 25 vehicles, 12 will replace the pintle-mounted machine gun up top with “overhead weapons systems” that use advanced optics and thermal imaging, and can be controlled from inside the vehicle.

June 13/08: The Dutch MvD announces that The Netherlands will buy another 13 Bushmasters, spares, and service in a EUR 14.5 million (about $22.3 million) contract modification. This brings the Dutch order total to 48, with 6 vehicles destroyed thus far in land mine attacks that caused no casualties. Dutch MvD | Ares | Australia’s DoD, who adds on Aug 8 that Britain has also bought 24 vehicles.

Nov 20/07: The Dutch MvD places a EUR 8.5 million (about $12 million) order for another 10 Bushmasters as combat replacements, after 2 vehicles are destroyed and 2 others heavily damaged by IED land mine attacks in Afghanistan. It’s not unusual for blast-resistant vehicles to be destroyed by land mines and still protect their crew, however, an outcome that is considered a success. No details regarding that aspect of those incidents are released, but the MvD usually announces casualties and includes vehicle types; DID has searched, but seen no reports involving the Bushmaster. MvD release [in Dutch] | Accompanying brief: “Aanvullende behoefte Bushmaster-patrouillevoertuigen.”

Le cout d'un Buschmaster équipé avoisine le 1 000 000€  pour la Hollande.

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Si cela peut t'aider dans l'un des T&A, il y a un tableau comparatif des prix et catégories des MRAP.

Faut pas oublier c'est comme pour les avions, tu commandes aussi les pièces détachées, les rechanges, les moteurs, les équipements supplémentaires, les surblindages et kit...

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C'est juste pour avoir une idée du prix approximatif des différents véhicules et réfléchir au prix dérisoire qu'il coute à nos adversaires pour les mettre hors service avec des IED.

Mais tu as raison présenter les différents prix et catégories sous forme de tableau aurait de la gueule.

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Honnêtement messieurs, c'est un topic que j'attendais sans le savoir: j'essaie depuis quelques temps de faire un chiffrage global d'unités de combat complètes et la ressource manque toutes les 5 minutes, même si mon fichier excel commence à être assez étoffé. La quantité invraissemblable de matos variés est effrayante. Le moindre prix de véhicule et de ses différentes versions est apprécié, croyez le bien.

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C'est juste pour avoir une idée du prix approximatif des différents véhicules et réfléchir au prix dérisoire qu'il coute à nos adversaires pour les mettre hors service avec des IED.

Mais tu as raison présenter les différents prix et catégories sous forme de tableau aurait de la gueule.

Mettre un tableau sur ce forum, je ne sais pas le faire  :-[  Sources Jean-Jacques Mercier T&A n°09 page 40/41

MRAP catégorie III, plus de 25 tonnes, Buffalo 6x6 FPI 856.000 $

MRAP caté II, Cougar 6x6 FPI 644.000 $, RG-33L 6x6 630.000 $, RG-31E 6x6 559.000 $, MAXXPRO XL 4x4 540.000 $, GOLAN 4x4 623.000 $, Caiman 6x6 600.000 $

MRAP caté I, Cougar H 4x4 475.000 $, RG-33 4x4 300.000 $, Maxxpro 4x4 548.000 $, Caiman 4x4 443.000 $ RG-31 mk5 4x4 300.000 $, M-117 4x4 690.000 $

[table=;]

MRAP;Prix

MRAP categorie III

Buffalo 6x6 FPI; 856.000 $

MRAP cat. II

Cougar 6x6 FPI; 644.000 $

RG-33L 6x6; 630.000 $

RG-31E 6x6; 559.000 $

MAXXPRO XL 4x4; 540.000 $

GOLAN 4x4; 623.000 $

Caiman 6x6; 600.000 $

MRAP cat. I

Cougar H 4x4; 475.000 $

RG-33 4x4; 300.000 $

Maxxpro 4x4; 548.000 $

Caiman 4x4; 443.000 $

RG-31 mk5 4x4; 300.000 $

M-117 4x4; 690.000 $[/table]

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MRAP caté IMRAP caté II MRAP caté III

Cougar H 4x4 475.000 $Cougar 6x6 FPI 644.000 $Buffalo 6x6 FPI 856.000 $

RG-33 4x4 300.000 $RG-33L 6x6 630.000 $

Maxxpro 4x4 548.000 $MAXXPRO XL 4x4 540.000 $

Caiman 4x4 443.000 $Caiman 6x6 600.000 $

RG-31 mk5 4x4 300.000 $RG-31E 6x6 559.000 $

M-117 4x4 690.000 $GOLAN 4x4 623.000 $

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Du gros, du lourd et des surprises.

French Military Orders Buffalo Vehicles from Force Protection

Publisher: Force Protection, Inc.

Date: 07/23/2008

Ladson, SC -- Force Protection, Inc. (NASDAQ:FRPT) today announced that it will produce five Buffalo Category III vehicles for the French military under a contract modification to contract M67854-07-C-5039. The order totals $3.5 million and is scheduled for completion by November 2008. Work is to be performed solely by Force Protection Industries.

700 000$ par buffalo, moins chère que les prix de T&A, ils sont en plastique ou c'est des deuxieme main?

Force Protection Receives Multiple Buffalo Vehicle Orders-16 Vehicles Ordered for U.S. Army GSTAMIDS Program--United Kingdom to Receive Its First 14 Buffalo A2 Vehicles--Combined Value of $34.1 Million-

LADSON, S.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Force Protection, Inc. (NASDAQ: FRPT) today announced that it has received an additional order from the United States Army under contract W56HZV-08-C-0028 for the delivery of 16 of its Buffalo A2 route-clearance vehicles. The undefinitized contract modification carries a dollar value not to exceed $15.5 million and fulfills a portion of the requirement for the Ground Standoff Mine Detection System or GSTAMIDS program of record. The vehicles are to be delivered no later than the end of June 2009.

In addition, Force Protection today announced that it has received a modification to contract M67854-06-C-5162 from Marine Corps Systems Command for a Foreign Military Sales order of 14 Buffalo vehicles to be delivered to the United Kingdom Ministry of Defence. The undefinitized contract modification carries a dollar value not to exceed $18.6 million. This modification represents the first orders for the Buffalo vehicle for the United Kingdom. Work under the modification including vehicle deliveries and sustainment is to be completed by October 2009.

par contre il y a une surtaxte pour les Brits.

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Les cinq MRAP achetes par la France etaient en effet presentes lors de l'annonce du contrat comme des materiels d'occaz ex-USMC si je me souviens bien.

Peut etre que c'est du matériel reconditionné qui est passé se faire une nouvelle jeunesse a l'usine ...

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Peut etre que c'est du matériel reconditionné qui est passé se faire une nouvelle jeunesse a l'usine ...

Pris sur le stock de l'US Marines Corps, c'est surtout pour les recevoir plus rapidement et les expédier en A-Stan.

Par la suite, un des RG en fera l'acquisition.

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les USA proposent à la France un lot de 100 RG31 gratos !

info d'avant hier à l'emat

Mais quelle est la contre partie ? Pourquoi une telle proposition gratieuse ? les MRAP RG31 sont-ils neufs ou d'occasion ? En échange de quoi ?

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si c'est le cas on doit vraiment leur faire pitié... :O

Tant que l'on y est, puisque c'est bientôt Noël ! Autant que Washington nous offre 6 C17 Globemaster III et 40 Chinook standard F.

Faut au moins cela comme cadeau.  :lol:

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Mais quelle est la contre partie ? Pourquoi une telle proposition gratieuse ? les MRAP RG31 sont-ils neufs ou d'occasion ? En échange de quoi ?

Prendre la suite des Hollandais, envoyer les C17. :lol:

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Pitié ou pas, on va quand même pas dire non si cette offre est vrai, mais on a sûrement dû leur promettre de les envoyer soutenir la coalition en Afghanistan...(ce qui n'est pas forcément une mauvaise chose pour nos troupes là bas)

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Des propositions comme celles-ci ne sont pas innoncentes, si on se met a les accepter

on se met aussi a lacher un peu de notre independance...

Les Etats-unis n'ont jamais fait de cadeaux gratuit sans esperer un retour sur investissement,

Le Plan Marshall en est l'exemple(on arrose l'europe de billets verts pour stopper le communisme)]

, bien sur ici on parle juste d'une centaine de véhicules mais ca reste  le meme principe.

Rien n'est gratuit en politique...  =|

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