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the British Army's biggest equipment program could be delayed or axed, it signaled more than just another problem for the U.K.'s torturous efforts to build a medium-weight armored vehicle fleet.

"I think they will find a mechanism to keep it going, maybe by moving bits of the program around. We are most likely talking about a delay," Wilson said.

Nobody is saying yet how long that delay might be.

Reducing numbers or stretching out deliveries are other options, but company officials here said that so far, none of the numbers talked about fall outside the original parameters agreed to by the two sides.

The Army was "pretty constrained on vehicle funding," he said.

The current plan calls for a decision by the MoD in 2013 on a manufacturing contract for about 240 General Dynamics scout vehicles, along with protected mobility reconnaissance support, recovery and repair variants.

A ministry spokesperson said, "We keep a range of options under consideration regarding future capabilities, including the Scout SV program. No final decisions have been made and premature speculation is not helpful."

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The current plan calls for a decision by the MoD in 2013 on a manufacturing contract for about 240 General Dynamics scout vehicles, along with protected mobility reconnaissance support, recovery and repair variants.

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March 13 report said that General Dynamics has been selected to build 750 next-generation armored reconnaissance vehicles for the British Army. Above, an image of the proposed vehicle. (COURTESY OF GENERAL DYNAMICS UK)

On passe de 750 à 240 engins so "FRES SV is dead".

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Même à Londres ils n'arrivent plus rien à comprendre  :lol: Une chatte ne retrouverais pas ses petits dans tout ça.

De toute façon, ce qui est sûr c'est que la British Army va encore devoir se séparer de beaucoup de blindés, Londres sait vendre de l'armement d'occasion.

Et si le FRES SV Recce est annulé c'est BAE Systems qui va être content il pourrait peaufiner son offre plus tard.

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aux dernières news, il n'y aurait plus que 70 FRES SV en version CTA40 (deux régiments), et ce serait le warrior improvement program qui serait prioritaire mais avec des quantités très limitées (mais ça a le temps de changer dix fois d'ici un an!)

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aux dernières news, il n'y aurait plus que 70 FRES SV en version CTA40 (deux régiments), et ce serait le warrior improvement program qui serait prioritaire mais avec des quantités très limitées (mais ça a le temps de changer dix fois d'ici un an!)

En tant qu'expert en système Blindé, tu en penses quoi de l'ASCOD 2 ? Vas-y fais toi plaisir  =) Et surtout la décision sur ce marché anglais !

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aux dernières news, il n'y aurait plus que 70 FRES SV en version CTA40 (deux régiments), et ce serait le warrior improvement program qui serait prioritaire

D'apres Wiki :

Programme de revalorisation[modifier]

L'un des volets du programme de "modification de moitié de vie" (2006-2012) est la revalorisation des Warrior de l'armée britannique afin de prolonger leur durée d'emploi jusqu'en 2025. Ce programme comprend :

augmentation des capacités de vision nocturne

ajout d'un système de communication Bowman

changement de la tourelle avec un canon de 40 mm

équipement d'une conduite de tir électronique

augmentation de la puissance du moteur

Une tourelle de démonstration a été développée par CTA International, une coentreprise formée par BAe Systems et GIAT Industrie. Un contrat a été remporté par le consortium en juin 2004 pour la fourniture d'un engin en décembre 2006 dans le cadre du "programme d'intégration de la tourelle habitée de l'armée britannique" (British Army's Manned Turret Integration Programme ou MTIP)

Le ministère de la défense britannique a lancé un appel d'offre pour équiper 350 véhicules de cette nouvelle tourelle en 2007.

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British MoD Reconsiders Assembling Scout in UK

Sep. 13, 2014 - 04:23PM | By ANDREW CHUTER


MoD's Choice: General Dynamics UK will supply the British Army with 589 Scout Specialist Vehicles in six variants beginning in 2017. (General Dynamics UK)

LONDON — General Dynamics has been asked by the Ministry of Defence to look again at the cost of assembling most of the vehicles under a major armored vehicle contract locally rather than in Spain, according to British procurement minister Philip Dunne.

The UK arm of General Dynamics landed a £3.5 billion (US $5.7 billion) deal Sept. 3 to manufacture 589 Scout specialist vehicles for the British Army starting in 2017 in what is the biggest armored vehicle order the UK has signed since the 1980s.

“The first 100 vehicles are being assembled in Spain. We have an option to assemble the rest in the UK and we have asked General Dynamics to scrub the numbers and look at that,” said Dunne.

General Dynamics UK declined to comment on the government request.

Under the original plan, sufficient vehicles to meet an initial operating capability would be built at the General Dynamics European Land Systems plant at Santa Barbara Sistemas in Spain. Full-rate production would then move to British state-owned Defence Support Group (DSG).

The full-rate manufacturing strategy envisaged the hull fabricated and painted in Spain with the remaining platform build, integration and testing taking place at DSG.

“The original pricing differential meant it was best value for UK taxpayers [for the vehicles to be built in Spain] but we have asked what they can do to scrub that,” said the procurement minister during an interview with Defense News.

Trevor Taylor, a professorial fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in London, said that with defense spending remaining under pressure paying a premium to have UK assembly would not be welcomed at the MoD.

“This is an expensive program, some of the variants cost more than a main battle tank, so you can imagine that any further cost increase as a result of moving assembly to the UK would put the MoD under some stress,” he said.

Dunne hinted that if assembly did end up in the UK it wouldn’t necessarily be done by DSG.

Asked whether there remained a possibility assembly work could come to DSG, Dunne replied, “Well, it’s still a possibility it could happen in the UK.”

Final proposals for the selloff of DSG to the private sector were lodged with the government Sept. 12. Babcock, Carillion, DynCorp International and KBR are the shortlisted contenders.

The winning bidder is expected to be announced in November.

The procurement minister said the decision not to have the specialist vehicle work undertaken at DSG would not impact the sale process.

“It was never part of the DSG business plan put together for its sale, it’s a future opportunity,” he said.

One analyst said several members of Parliament had voiced disquiet over the prospect of offshore integration and testing of vehicles.

The UK specialist vehicle program is based on a chassis derived from the Austrian/Spanish ASCOD platform built by Santa Barbara. The most important of the British Army variants is a reconnaissance and strike vehicle that features a Lockheed Martin UK integrated turret housing a unique 40mm case telescoped cannon.

Lockheed Martin had planned to have the turret systems integrated by DSG but that plan has been quietly dropped and the work taken in-house at the company’s Ampthill site in southern England.

“We have invested in our facilities at Ampthill where the turret will be integrated and tested,” said a Lockheed spokeswoman.

She declined to say whether a second turret being supplied as part of a Warrior infantry fighting vehicle update contract the company secured in 2011 would also switch to Ampthill, rather than go to DSG as expected.

Regardless of final assembly, the procurement minister said that 60 percent of the platform’s systems and sensors will be UK manufactured.

The order for 589 vehicles in six variants will create or secure more than 1,300 jobs at General Dynamics UK and the wider UK supply chain, the government said in its Sept. 3 announcement.

The company originally promised more than 10,000 jobs would be secured in the UK as part of its campaign to win a £500 million Scout demonstration contract awarded in 2010. BAE was the losing bidder.

Some industry executives here expressed surprise the government had signed the production deal when so many of the variants, including the complex reconnaissance version, hadn’t passed their critical design review.

A spokesman for General Dynamics said the reconnaissance variant critical design review will be held later this year and the first prototype unveiled in 2015.

Dunne defended the contract timing, saying all the major elements of the reconnaissance vehicle had been tested individually although full integration hadn’t taken place yet.

“Each element is well tested, it’s the full integration that hasn’t been done. ... This is not an immature design, we have further milestones to make but we are confident we have a piece of kit the components of which work. We have contractual safeguards for them [General Dynamics] to deliver according to the milestones,” he said.

Deliveries are due to start with the Protected Mobility Recce Support version. The first brigade should be ready to deploy in 2020. Deliveries will run to 2025.

The procurement minister said there are options for further purchases, but unless a future strategic defense and security review changes Army requirements to equip three brigades, the order numbers would not increase.

“Sitting here today it’s three brigades and 589 vehicles. That’s it. While it’s prudent to build in some options in the contract, at the moment we don’t have any intent to exercise them,” he said.

The Scout program to replace the aging Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Tracked) is one of several large armored fighting vehicle projects being pursued by the British.

The Warrior update is already underway and Dunne said a wheeled utility vehicle would be the next new armored vehicle priority. An update of the Challenger II tank is also in its early stages.

Figures released by the government in a parliamentary answer showed the MoD is planning to spend over £12 billion on armored vehicle program during the 10-year equipment plan up to 2025.

Although spending could be subject to cuts following the next government review for 2016 onwards, current plans see armored vehicle spending rise from £496 million next year to peak at £1.71 billion in 2022 before tailing off slightly to £1.29 in 2024. ■

Email: achuter@defensenews.com.

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British Scout Vehicle Passes Key Milestone

By Andrew Chuter 2:39 p.m. EST February 17,

LONDON — The key vehicle in a £3.5 billion (US $5.3 billion) program to re-equip the British Army with a new generation of armored Scout vehicles passed its critical design review (CDR), the Defence Ministry said on Tuesday.

The design and integration of the Scout reconnaissance vehicle met its critical design review date of Jan. 30, a ministry spokesman confirmed.

General Dynamics UK was awarded a £3.5 billion deal in September to deliver 589 Scout specialist vehicles (Scout SVs) to the Army starting in 2017.

At the heart of that requirement is the new reconnaissance vehicle, but the family will also include command and control, engineering reconnaissance, protected mobility reconnaissance support (PMRS) as well as repair and recovery variants, all using a common base platform.

The production deal, announced to coincide with the start of the British-hosted NATO Summit, was signed even though the complex turreted reconnaissance version of the vehicle had not at that stage passed its CDR.

Some industry executives here said at the time it was a risky way to do business.

Bernard Gray, the chief of defense materiel at the MoD's Defence Equipment & Support (DE&S) procurement arm, disagreed.

He told Defense News in an interview that the government had a significant contract to protect taxpayers in the event things went wrong and DE&S had been able to strike a "very, very favorable" deal by signing the contract sooner rather than later.

With the British defense budget threatened by further cuts the other side of the May 7 general election, sealing the deal early also has the effect of locking down the program for the Army.

The next key milestone, what the British MoD calls the next "anchor milestone," is the system critical design review, due for completion by the middle of this year.

The process covers PMRS, Scout reconnaissance, equipment support repair and equipment support recovery variants.

The spokesman said an anchor milestone can be a point at which a decision is made whether to continue the contract.

The reconnaissance version of Scout will replace a fleet of old CVR(T) vehicles now used by the British Army.

The tracked reconnaissance vehicle with its digital architecture and a range of new generation sensors also comes fitted with the new CTAI-developed 40mm cannon, which uniquely uses case-telescoped ammunition developed by the BAE/Nexter gun joint venture.

The turret for the reconnaissance version of Scout is being developed and integrated by Lockheed Martin UK.

Lockheed Martin is also the prime contractor on the British Army's other major armored vehicles program involving the £1 billion update of Warrior infantry fighting vehicles. That deal also involves the development and integration of a new turret using the CTAI cannon.

The reconnaissance version of the Scout SV family, which passed its CDR a few days ago, is the key element of a program that will eventually deliver six variants to equip three British Army brigades by the time full operating capability is planned to be reached in 2025.

Scout has a planned initial operating capability of July 2020 and the first converted brigade will be deployable by the end of that year, the MoD spokesman said.

Kevin Connell, vice president at General Dynamics UK-Land Systems, said meeting the CDR is a major step forward in delivering the program.

"Completion of the Scout reconnaissance variant CDR is a significant step in delivering a family of Scout SV platforms, which represent the future of armored fighting vehicles for the British Army," Connell said.

"The reconnaissance variant is the flagship of the Scout SV program and will provide a step-change in ground-based ISTAR capability to the British Army," he said.

General Dynamics has been working since mid-2010 on a £500 million demonstration phase contract to upgrade the ASCOD vehicle developed by its European land systems operation into the Scout SV family.

The protected mobility reconnaissance support vehicle passed its CDR last year and will be the first variant delivered to the British Army

Norway's Kongsberg announced last week it had signed a £61 million deal with General Dynamics to deliver its Protector remote weapon system starting late next year.

Protector will be available for fitting to all Scout SV platform variants, Kongsberg said.

Email: achuter@defensenews.com

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Rolls-Royce to Supply MTU Engines for British Army’s SCOUT SV

Rolls-Royce has received an order from General Dynamics European Land Systems (GDELS) for the delivery of 589 MTU Series 199 diesel engines for use in the new SCOUT Specialist Vehicle (SV) for the British Army.

The contract value is approximately €80 million and will be the first time that MTU engines have been utilised in British Army platforms. The vehicles will be delivered by General Dynamics UK in six variants and will form the backbone of the British Army’s future fleet of armoured fighting vehicles. Delivery of the engines will start in 2016, and the last engines will be delivered in 2022.

“We are delighted that our MTU engine has been trusted for this important project,” Dr. Ulrich Dohle, Rolls-Royce Power Systems, CEO, said. “This order once again proves that when it comes to performance and reliability, the Series 199 engine is benchmark in its power range.”


The MTU 8V 199 TE21 engines each have a power output of 600kW and are the most powerful engines of the series.

The 8V 199 TE21 engines each have a power output of 600kW and are the most powerful engines of the series. Engines of Series 199 have established themselves in various armoured vehicles, among them the Austrian ULAN and the Spanish PIZARRO vehicles. MTU’s scope of delivery includes the cooling system and two generators with 550A with each engine.

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Mise en production des canons de 40CTA

World-Leading Cased Telescoped technology enters production phase


Today’s announcement that CTA International (CTAI), the joint venture between BAE Systems and Nexter, has been awarded a £150m contract from the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) marks an important milestone for CTAI to deliver step-changing capability to the British Army’s new vehicles programmes.

The contract for 40mm Cased Telescoped Cannons for the UK’s Scout and Warrior Capability Sustainment Programmes, will be the first time that this state-of-the-art munitions technology has gone into full production. The programme will see CTAI deliver a total of 515 Cased Telescoped Cannons over seven years, with the first cannons scheduled for delivery in mid-2016.

The revolutionary design provides a weapon that is both powerful and compact with low intrusion, allowing the munitions to be fired at high elevation and on the move. This capability will give the British Army increased flexibility to use their new vehicles in different theatres.

Steve Fogg, BAE Systems Munitions Managing Director and CTAI Board member said:

“Since the joint venture’s formation in 1994, our aim has been to develop world leading 40mm Cased Telescoped innovative technology as a global solution for Armoured Fighting and Infantry Fighting Vehicles.

“This contract, which signals the commencement of full production scale output of the 40mm cannon system, represents a significant milestone on this journey and when incorporated on the UK vehicles, will provide a step change in the fire power capability for the British Army.

“It is a very proud day for everyone involved and I look forward to this world class technology being incorporated into future vehicle programmes.”

The qualified cased telescoped ammunition for the UK MoD is also manufactured by BAE Systems Munitions at its Glascoed and Washington facilities in the UK. The next phase is the completion of the certification testing for the high explosive General Purpose Rounds: Point Detonation (GPR –PD) and Air-burst (GPR-AB).

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Faisant suite à Philippe ; on ne rit pas. Ceci est bien un véhicule de reconnaissance. 

Turreted Ajax unveiled at DSEI

Sep 15, 2015 


London, U.K. – General Dynamics UK has today unveiled the turreted AJAX prototype platform (formerly known as SCOUT SV) at DSEI 2015.

The company displayed the troop carrier variant of the family last year. The flagship variant of the AJAX programme, the turreted variant is the second prototype to be unveiled by General Dynamics UK, and the first to feature the Lockheed Martin UK-developed turret, which is designed to meet the needs of the modern British soldier.

The first British Army squadron will be equipped by mid-2019 to allow conversion to begin with a brigade ready to deploy from the end of 2020.

The AJAX platform is one of six variants to be delivered to the British Army by General Dynamics UK from 2017 through 2024. It represents the future of Armoured Fighting Vehicles (AFV) for the British Army, providing best-in-class protection and survivability, reliability and mobility and advanced ISTAR capabilities.

The AJAX platform will be the ‘eyes and ears’ of the British Army on the battlefields of the future. It will be effective in the most difficult terrains around the world, providing all-weather intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition and reconnaissance (ISTAR) capabilities.

Commenting on the unveiling of the AJAX platform, MoD Armoured Vehicles Head of Programmes, Major General Talbot-Rice, said: “We are committed to supplying the Armed Forces with the very best equipment possible and are delivering on this by supplying the AJAX platform which will become their first fully digitised armoured fighting vehicle.”

The range of AJAX variants will allow the British Army to conduct sustained, expeditionary, full-spectrum and network-enabled operations with a reduced logistics footprint. It can operate in combined-arms and multinational situations across a wide-range of future operating environments.

AJAX has been designed and developed at General Dynamics UK’s AFV design and engineering centre in Oakdale, South Wales.

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