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http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3212,36-638441,0.html Les secrets des militaires français s'étalent en cédérom sur les marchés d'Abidjan Le Monde du 14 04 2005 Depuis quelques jours, un cédérom peu banal est en vente dans plusieurs quartiers d'Abidjan. Sur sa couverture, un titre : Le CD-ROM oublié, et une photo, celle du général Henri Poncet, le chef de l'opération " Licorne ". Il s'agit de copies du disque dur d'un ordinateur imprudemment laissé derrière elles, en novembre 2004, par les forces françaises alors qu'elles évacuaient l'hôtel Ivoire, cerné par des milliers de " jeunes patriotes " en colère. Vendu 3 000 francs CFA (l'équivalent de 6 euros), le cédérom est une sorte de bric-à-brac d'informations, toutes plus confidentielles les unes que les autres, collectées par les services de renseignement. Au fil des fichiers, on découvre un recensement détaillé de l'état des forces militaires en présence, côté rebelle et côté gouvernemental, leurs positions précises, le type de matériel dont elles disposent, l'organisation du renseignement français en Côte d'Ivoire, la méthode pour identifier un avion civil ou militaire...

MDR !!! :D C'est bien l'afrique ca! Maquis-Bar le Sukhoi ! lol Sinon il est super bien realiser ce reportage photo !

Derniers developments: cela ne s'arrange pas, au contraire ARTICLE Un article recent qui resume bien la situation. :( Et deux autres articles pas moins interressant: Les positions de Licorne chaque jour plus intenables Le feu de la haine a gagné la brousse

lol c'est moi qui l'ai poste cette photo... et je l ai prise du lien qu'il y a plus haut sur ce thread :)

Ce magasine vaut il le coup (en comparaison aux revues RAID, air fan, Top gun etc...) ? J'ai vu que l'on pouvait s'abonner via leur site web: http://www.defense-presse.com/ 55 euros pour 11 numeros a l'etranger (j'habite aux USA) ce n'est pas excessif... Edit: c'est bon en fait... j'avais pas lu les autres post :P

Vu que tout le monde est passe a cote de mon post, je le remet: Ce ne sont pas des ovnis, mais bien des jets US... d'apres les iraniens... Des jets US violent l'espace aerien Iranien: source Tehran, Jan 2, IRNA -- A US warplane has violated Iranian air space, this time a border edge near Afghanistan in the eastern province of Razavi Khorassan, in the latest spate of such overflights reported by the press. According to the evening daily Kayhan, an American fighter entered Iranian air space Thursday night, flying over the southern border strip at Iran's Mousa-Abad region for several minutes. The US warplane flew back to Afghanistan, from where it had entered the Iranian airspace, the paper added. Kayhan further quoted an unknown source as saying that three US warplanes had again violated Iranian air space in the southwestern cities of Khorramshahr and Abadan near the Iraqi border. "The three warplanes, of F-18 Hornets and F-16 Tomcats types, held overflights at high altitudes near the Khorramshahr and Abadan air borders. "The circular maneuvering of the two American fighters indicated them as carrying out spying sorties and controlling the borders," the paper quoted the source as saying. The report came less than a week after Iran's Air Force chief, Brigadier Karim Qavami was quoted as having ordered the forces under his command to open fire and shoot down any unidentified aircraft violating the country's air space. "Given that the intrusion of enemy aircraft over Iran's air space is possible, all fighter jets of the country have been ordered by the Army chief to shoot them down in the event of sighting them," the daily Kayhan quoted Qavami as saying last Saturday. The Air Force chief stressed that 'any flight (within Iranian air space) must be coordinated, or else it will be targeted', the daily added. Iran has been wary of the occupation forces' presence on its doorsteps in Iraq and have had their movements under close scrutiny. In August, press reports said that five US warplanes had entered Iran's air space from the southwestern Shalamcheh border and flown over the city of Khorramshahr. According the Persian daily Seday-e Edalat, 'the jet fighters which flew at high speed and altitude, then headed to the Arvand River'. "While the objective of the fighters' violation of Iranian air space is not known yet, some military specialists believe such moves are aimed at assessing the sensitivity of the Islamic Republic's anti-aircraft defense system," the paper said at the time. In June, Iranian naval guards seized three British boats with eight crew in the country's territorial waters in Arvand river, which borders Iraq. The servicemen, two Royal Navy sailors and six Royal Marine commandos, were later released. Qavami also reiterated the readiness of the Iranian air force to confront any foreign threat to the country's nuclear sites. "We have made planning not only for nuclear centers but also for sensitive and strategic sites," Kayhan quoted him as saying. His statements came days after army chief General Mohammad Salimi was quoted as saying that the air force has been ordered to be prepared to defend the country's nuclear sites in the event of an attack. "The air force has been ordered to protect the nuclear sites, using all its power," the daily Iran quoted Salimi as saying, adding the air force had temporarily suspended all its maneuvers in order to focus its capabilities on patrolling the skies over Iran. Such statements have raised the stakes in a war of words amid foreign press speculation about possible Israeli and American attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. Iranian military commanders have warned of grave consequences if any such attack takes place. Israeli Defense Minister Shaoul Mofaz was cited to have tried to 'calm things down' concerning the possibility of the Zionist regime striking Iranian nuclear installations. "We have to calm things down concerning the so-called intentions attributed to Israel of attacking Iran," AFP quoted Mofaz as saying. http://www.payvand.com/news/05/jan/1004.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Faut il croire cet article ? quand on lit des trucs comme "f-16 tomcat"

Des jets US violent l'espace aerien Iranien: source Tehran, Jan 2, IRNA -- A US warplane has violated Iranian air space, this time a border edge near Afghanistan in the eastern province of Razavi Khorassan, in the latest spate of such overflights reported by the press. According to the evening daily Kayhan, an American fighter entered Iranian air space Thursday night, flying over the southern border strip at Iran's Mousa-Abad region for several minutes. The US warplane flew back to Afghanistan, from where it had entered the Iranian airspace, the paper added. Kayhan further quoted an unknown source as saying that three US warplanes had again violated Iranian air space in the southwestern cities of Khorramshahr and Abadan near the Iraqi border. "The three warplanes, of F-18 Hornets and F-16 Tomcats types, held overflights at high altitudes near the Khorramshahr and Abadan air borders. "The circular maneuvering of the two American fighters indicated them as carrying out spying sorties and controlling the borders," the paper quoted the source as saying. The report came less than a week after Iran's Air Force chief, Brigadier Karim Qavami was quoted as having ordered the forces under his command to open fire and shoot down any unidentified aircraft violating the country's air space. "Given that the intrusion of enemy aircraft over Iran's air space is possible, all fighter jets of the country have been ordered by the Army chief to shoot them down in the event of sighting them," the daily Kayhan quoted Qavami as saying last Saturday. The Air Force chief stressed that 'any flight (within Iranian air space) must be coordinated, or else it will be targeted', the daily added. Iran has been wary of the occupation forces' presence on its doorsteps in Iraq and have had their movements under close scrutiny. In August, press reports said that five US warplanes had entered Iran's air space from the southwestern Shalamcheh border and flown over the city of Khorramshahr. According the Persian daily Seday-e Edalat, 'the jet fighters which flew at high speed and altitude, then headed to the Arvand River'. "While the objective of the fighters' violation of Iranian air space is not known yet, some military specialists believe such moves are aimed at assessing the sensitivity of the Islamic Republic's anti-aircraft defense system," the paper said at the time. In June, Iranian naval guards seized three British boats with eight crew in the country's territorial waters in Arvand river, which borders Iraq. The servicemen, two Royal Navy sailors and six Royal Marine commandos, were later released. Qavami also reiterated the readiness of the Iranian air force to confront any foreign threat to the country's nuclear sites. "We have made planning not only for nuclear centers but also for sensitive and strategic sites," Kayhan quoted him as saying. His statements came days after army chief General Mohammad Salimi was quoted as saying that the air force has been ordered to be prepared to defend the country's nuclear sites in the event of an attack. "The air force has been ordered to protect the nuclear sites, using all its power," the daily Iran quoted Salimi as saying, adding the air force had temporarily suspended all its maneuvers in order to focus its capabilities on patrolling the skies over Iran. Such statements have raised the stakes in a war of words amid foreign press speculation about possible Israeli and American attack on Iran's nuclear facilities. Iranian military commanders have warned of grave consequences if any such attack takes place. Israeli Defense Minister Shaoul Mofaz was cited to have tried to 'calm things down' concerning the possibility of the Zionist regime striking Iranian nuclear installations. "We have to calm things down concerning the so-called intentions attributed to Israel of attacking Iran," AFP quoted Mofaz as saying. http://www.payvand.com/news/05/jan/1004.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Faut il croire cet article ? quand on lit des trucs comme "f-16 tomcat" :lol:

mmm :? Si guerre il y a, les etats-unis ne la feront pas seuls cette fois. (Ils ne vont pas commetre la meme erreur) La France, GB et Allemagne travaillent deja sur l'Iran diplomatiquement. Mais si guerre il doit y avoir, ca passera forcement par L ONU cette fois... Ensuite on peut extrapoler et imaginer que le conflit se generalise en guerre monde arabe contre monde occidental avec certaines position clefs pour certains pays ( Israel, Turquie, Pakistan) Si cela arrive, il y aura aussi de gros problemes en europe meme. C'est a prevoir. Du genre, des soulevement dans les cites ou milieux defavorises etc... Cela sera un probleme en plus a gerer...