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En 2017, la première procédure officielle a été officiellement lancée. Avant cela, il y avait des milliers d'offres non officielles, de demandes de renseignements, de RFI, études... En général, l'idée de remplacer le MIG existe depuis 2010

Je serai heureux de vous présenter une bonne coutume de course locale ... nous ne sommes pas très différents du sud de la France nous sommes tous impatients et il y a un énorme malentendu pour un tel retard ...

aha, yes. Countries like Croatia doesnt have critical need for AESA or 9000 heures resources...that is correct, if I understand you well. It is critical for countries like Croatia to get in touch with 4+ generation and western technology , to adopt modern procedures and infrastructure...to develop new system from scratch...under affordable price.

I think France/DGA/Dassault cannot sell anything under F3R standard , original or retrofited (at least in NATO member states) One of the reasons is IFF Mode5

and look at this , creating fear of next war, reminding on great serbia ... total madness just to sell F-16 https://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/bivsi-americki-general-2021-ce-se-intenzivirati-sukobi-rusije-i-zapada-na-balkanu-1475069 P.S. Okrugli stol za hrvatske novinare i analitičare s Breedloveom organizirao je Lockheed Martin koji je jedan od četiri ponuđača borbenih zrakoplova Hrvatskoj. Breedlove je vanjski suradnik tog američkog proizvođača oružja.

No...we are in total dark, no neither unofficial infos...every chanel is closed. Some one talks about Rafale and F-16 b70 in finals...

yesterday Minister of Defence confirmed the choise has been made and it will be announced in next few weeks (around 15th of march). In the same inteview he hes been talking about EU military R&D funds... https://slobodnadalmacija.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/banozic-najavio-odluku-o-nabavi-borbenih-zrakoplova-za-ozujak-u-isto-vrijeme-stize-i-sluzbeni-plan-nabave-naoruzanja-za-ovu-godinu-1079781

it is unofficial so might be not truth. for training

CRO OPS is internet circus guy... There is no real connection between him and airforce pilots and officers... croatie is extremly slow in decision and that is something no one can understand any more in croatia. But reason may be in unofficial information - Greece wants to take +12 rafales for croatia ang offer Mirage 2000 (or even F-16 b30). France is part of that potential deal and all three parties are in negotiation...unofficialy. about F-35 - Croatia was collecting infos on possible offers in 2018/19 including F-35 but it is not good for Croatia , we need 2 planes biseats.

is FOMEDEC/MENTOR programe on PC21 live, and alphajet is out ? How was organised indian transition on Rafale and what time it took to get indian pilots on rafale. Indian pilots were also on MIG as croatia is. Did they went on PC21+simulator and then on Rafale two seat as transition ? how long transition takes time (heures vol on PC21+heures vol on rafale) ?

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what is supported availability percentage for Rafale export deals so far - 65% , 75% ? And what is the time of Follow on Support for export deals so far - 3,4,5 years ? P. S I understand it is value depending on Customer needs...but how is that for Greece, India...

Croatian PrimeMinister Plenković yesterday has stated the "process in not in focus right now becouse of earthquake...we will wait...". President Milanovic stated "waiting must be not too long...it must be done in next few months...and ended up to end od 2021." President also stated the problematic economic criteria for implementing euro in Croatia, plus zagreb and Petrinja eartquake plus COVID (we also had a devastating floods near Split this year) ...economy is devastated in general. It is so depressing, such a bad year and years yet to come

maxportal n'est pas une source sérieuse et n'a pas d'analystes militaires sérieux. Ils écrivent des bêtises. si vous souhaitez suivre la situation des Croates, obris.org est relativement fiable et sérieux...bien que peut-être le SAAB penche le plus. @Picdelamirand-oil,Je suis presque sûr que la Croatie n'exige pas ou ne veut pas payer AESA pour le moment...peut-être dans une future mise à niveau F4. à mon avis, la plus grande question est de savoir si la France est prête à allouer 12 pièces dans le délai dont la Croatie a besoin. J'ai peur que 2024 soit trop loin pour la Croatie ... sauf peut-être avec quelques avantages financiers supplémentaires comme un report de paiement ou une prolongation du remboursement pour peut-être 15 ans. P.S. désolé dans mon mauvais google français

Dassault n'a pas encore abandonné et la Croatie n'a pas abandonné Rafala. Des pourparlers de paiement supplémentaires sont nécessaires. SAAb est le plus rapide ici maintenant

La Croatie a un problème imprévu, un double tremblement de terre dévastateur + covid. Par conséquent, il est officieusement demandé de différer le paiement jusqu'à la livraison des premières pièces. seul SAAB serait prêt pour un tel arrangement pour le moment.

It is solved...: Kyriakos Mitsotakis can't beat this -)))))

cependant, toute la Croatie sent comme un parfum français...:-)

Année de livraison is the main problem to Croatie ! Armee de l'Air wont let to loose extra 12 operational Rafales before Parly ordre extra 12 neufs, as same as she did for Grece ,it looks so.

yes, only on documents provided by constructeurs . And by visiting operators of the platforms, gathering their expirience. we are not rich enough to do something like Finland This is only text in last few days wich is not SAAB's paid promo. And this one it is not a fully reliable

these last few days SAAB is having a big media/PR operation in Croatia...they are bombing the media daily . On Rafale we have some media unofficiall info's like (https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/svi-detalji-nabave-borbenih-aviona-kolika-je-cijena-zrakoplova-koji-su-rokovi-isporuke-15012432) - F3R (oldest ones are 10 years) - some are from OPEX - first 6 rafale could be delivered in 2024. - price for whole package is under 1 mlrd Eur (wich was expected) - training up to 18 months So there could be a serious problem with Rafale , if it is true, most important is delivery in 2024. ! It is too long and that is maybe the most important variable for Croatia. We are loosing MIG's in 2023/24. And could be the most expensive per heures vol. Is there any credible france info on prix heures vol for Rafale ?

ohh, OK, sorry Croatia have Tactical-Tehnical study on new fighter jet wich defines minimal 12 fighterjets, consists of 10 singleseats and 2 biseats for training. TT study is still active (https://vlada.gov.hr/vijesti/odrzana-prva-sjednica-medjuresornog-povjerenstva-za-nabavu-visenamjenskoga-borbenog-aviona/26455) and is fundamental document in this process, so it is impossible to aquire 12 biseats. If DGA offers 12 biseats they cant win in Croatia. On 12. december we will know everything about all the offers.

@ARPA it must be a mistake, croatia seeks for 10 one-seaters and 2 bi-seaters. "Ou à l'iranienne, il faut de la place pour le commissaire politique qui surveille le pilote ?" this is completly wrong , no such intention in Croatia.

Is there any details on prix for 12 grece used Rafales (F3R !?) ?