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Serge    1607

Premier article comparant le Multicam et le Scorpion W2 :

SSD Exclusive – OCP Side-by-Side Photos – Scorpion W2 & MultiCam

SSD obtained these photos of Scorpion W2 and MultiCam fabric after the US Army released photos of the new new Army Combat Uniform in Operational Camouflage Pattern. Considering both are called Operational Camouflage Pattern by the US Army we thought it would be a good idea to give you an idea of how similar the patterns are. Can you guess which is which in this photo?

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In the photo above you see the Crye Precision MultiCam pattern atop the Army’s Scorpion W2 created about four years ago.

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This photo depicts MultiCam to the left and the lighter Scorpion W2 to the right.

Yes, the colors look different in each photo but that is due completely to lighting. While there are differences, I’d say that they are close enough. For government work, that is.

http://soldiersystems.net/2014/08/05/ocp-side-side-photos-scorpion-w2-multicam/

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Premier effet de l'adoption du Scorpion W2 :

Rangers retire UCP to wear MultiCam full time

Published on October 3rd, 2014

Written by: Matthew Cox

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The U.S. Army has given a green light to the 75th Ranger Regiment to retire its Universal Camouflage Patterned uniforms and wear the Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern, or MultiCam, in garrison.

The change-over became official today as the elite unit celebrated its 30th anniversary.

“The Army has authorized the Ranger Regiment to wear in garrison the Flame Resistant Army Combat Uniform (FRACU) in the Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern (OEF CP) that our soldiers have been wearing in Operation Enduring Freedom since 2010,” according to an Oct. 3 Army statement.

“This uniform is indicative of the operational success overseas of one of the most deployed units in the U. S. Army, and authorizing its wear in garrison by the Rangers symbolizes the first step in the Army’s phased transition from the Universal Camouflage Pattern to a more operationally relevant uniform.”

That uniform will be printed in the Army’s new Operational Camouflage Pattern. The service adopted OCP after an exhaustive, four-year camouflage-improvement effort the service completed a year ago.

OCP is also known as Scorpion W2, a revised version of the original Scorpion pattern that Crye Precision LLC developed for the Army’s Future Force Warrior in 2002. Crye later made small adjustments to the pattern for better performance and trademark purposes and called it MultiCam.

The Army plans to print Army Combat Uniforms in the new pattern and make them available at Military Clothing Sales Stores next year.

“The Army remains on track to field uniforms and equipment bearing the Operational Camouflage Pattern in the summer 2015"

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Comme prévu, le mois de juillet débute la distribution des nouvelles tenues avec le nouveau camouflage OCP. La procédure va durer jusqu'en 2019 :

Soldiers Line Up to Buy New Camouflage Uniforms

Published on July 8th, 2015

Written by: Matthew Cox

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In the first week of the July 1 rollout, soldiers have been standing in long lines to buy the Army’s new camouflage uniforms in record numbers, according to Army Air Force Exchange Service officials.

Army Combat Uniforms in the new Operational Camouflage Pattern are now available at Military Clothing Sales stores at 20 locations and “demand has been exceptionally high, with the exchange reporting first-day sales in excess of $1.4 million,” according to Debra Dawson, spokeswoman for the Army’s Program Executive Office Soldier.

The Mini Mall at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, sold $300,000 worth of the new camouflage uniforms on July 1, according to store manager Dave Dingwell.

“It has been a great turnout,” Dingwell said, adding that most soldiers at Bragg have been buying the ACU coat, trousers and patrol cap since they know they can wear the current T-shirt, belt and boots until 2019.

The Military Clothing Sales store at Fort Benning, Georgia, sold $85,000 worth of the new OCP uniforms on the first day, according to store manager Donita Nobles.

“The customers are really excited about being able to buy the uniforms,” she said.

Soldiers at Benning are mostly buying the coat, trousers, patrol cap, and the T-shirt and belt in the new Tan 499 color, Nobles said. The store does not currently have the new coyote brown boots.

More Expensive ACUs

The new ACUs are a little more expensive than the current ACUs in the Universal Camouflage Pattern. Uniform items in the new camouflage cost $46.73 for the coat, $46.07 for the trousers and $8.10 for the patrol cap, according to Fort Bragg store officials.

Uniform items in the current UCP cost $41.86 for the coat, $42.43 for the trousers and $7.41 for the patrol cap.

In addition to Bragg and Benning, the new camouflage uniforms are available at stores at other installations such as Fort Campbell, Kentucky; Fort Stewart, Georgia; Fort Hood, Texas; Fort Lewis, Washington; Fort Drum, New York; Fort Carson, Colorado; and South Korea.

Beginning in August, the new ACUs will be available at 28 more installations including Fort Bliss, Texas; Fort Riley, Kansas; Fort Knox, Kentucky; as well as stores in the Washington, D.C., area such as the Pentagon.

Beginning in October, the new ACUs will become available at 63 installations such as Fort Sill, Oklahoma; Fort Sam Houston, Texas; Fort Jackson, South Carolina; Fort Lee, Virginia; and Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri.

The goal is to have every soldier outfitted with OCP camouflage uniforms by Oct. 1, 2019.

Army senior leaders selected OCP after the service completed its exhaustive Phase IV camouflage effort in 2013.

The service launched the effort in 2009 to find a replacement for the current Universal Camouflage Pattern, a pixilated pattern known for its poor performance in Afghanistan. It involved years of testing multiple patterns in a variety of operational environments.

In addition to a new pattern, the new OCP ACUs will feature several upgraded features based on soldier feedback, according to Army officials. Some of the improvements include a zipper closure to replace the hook and loop flap closure on the shoulder pockets. The collar will be more of a fold-down design and no longer have the hook and loop collar extension. Internal elbow pad and knee pad pockets have been removed, but the reinforcement will stay.

The OCP ACUs will also feature a new Tan 499 T-shirt and belt, as well as coyote brown boots. But during the transition, soldiers can wear the current sand color T-shirt, belt and boots, Army officials maintain.

The Army plans to produce all equipment items such as body armor, packs and pouches in OCP, but until that happens, soldiers will use existing stocks of UCP-patterned equipment in training scenarios, Army officials say. They will also be authorized to use equipment printed in the Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern.

Soldiers who deploy on real-world missions, however, will receive uniforms and equipment printed in OCP, according to Army officials.

— Matthew Cox can be reached at Matthew.Cox@military.com.

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Serge    1607

L'UCP fait l'objet d'un programme de remplacement depuis 2007.

Pour le théâtre afghan, il y a eu l'adoption du Multicam sous le nom OCP.

Puis, l'idée de changer l'UCP pour toute l'US-Army a été validée.

Plusieurs idées on vu le jour et celle d'un camouflage universel fut retenue. L'US-Army avait les droits sur le Scorpion aussi est-elle repartie de cette base. Le résultat est ce que nous voyons.

Le nom OCP a changé de sens mais a été conservé pour éviter de changer trop de documentation.

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Rob1    1628

tout ca pour du multicam!!!

 

 Au moins ils ont du multicam, suis-je tenté de dire, un bon camo (à mon avis) et au look moderne (la mode, ca compte pour l'image, le moral).

 

Pendant ce temps-là en France, on va passer au Félin T4... toujours en CE :'(

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Gibbs le Cajun    4809

tout ca pour du multicam!!!

 

Prenons en compte une chose ,on a eu des camos célèbres de part le monde entre woodland ,camo léopard ,camo brits DPM ,pixelisé canadiens etc ... ou type allemand flaktarn etc ... mais on a toujours eu des dérivés basés sur ces camos et qui ont était adopté par des autres pays mais soit dans des couleurs différente ou des motifs légèrement différent .

 

Prenons le DPM brits ,la variante néerlandaise ou portugaise sont une variante du  DPM au niveau forme des dessins mais de couleur différente .

 

 

 

Si on prend le multicam il n'échappe pas à la règle car si on observe bien la chose ,les brits l'ont adopté en y mettant une variante de couleur et de forme légèrement différente , les australiens idem (il est plus vert en fait ) ,et les US aussi .

 

Donc 

 

 Au moins ils ont du multicam, suis-je tenté de dire, un bon camo (à mon avis) et au look moderne (la mode, ca compte pour l'image, le moral).

 

Pendant ce temps-là en France, on va passer au Félin T4... toujours en CE :'(

Effectivement ,mais le CE reste une fois usé et sale un bon camo certes basique mais efficace .

Chris Hernandez ( que tu dois connaître certainement ) a vu que le CE passé bien en Afgha et il est revenu sur un vieux woodland US (à l'époque il avait le digital de l'Army ) ,utilisant à l'occase un camo CE français .

 

Donc question efficacité ce n'est pas vraiment un gros PB .

 

Après visuellement sa semble vieux comme principe et je peux comprendre qu'on soit attiré par le multicam .

 

Moi j'ai craquer aussi dessus , puisque pour la bricole ou les ballades en forêt j'aime porté du treillis et j'ai donc acheté un multi-cam US au niveau pantalon ,tee-shirt et une nouvelle paire de pompes (pas multicam ) ,idem pour le chapeau de brousse .

Il n'avait plus de chemise UBAS ,dommage (un de ces 4 j'y retourne dans ce surplus ).

 

D'ailleurs ce surplus reçoit beaucoup de multicam brits (la coupe et le camo multi typique brits ) ,neuf ou d'occase .

 

Bon maintenant je pense que l'effet de mode y est pour beaucoup même si le multicam a une efficacité au niveau  camouflage ,je pense que les vieux modèles ont aussi une efficacité éprouvé .

 

Rien qu'avec un treillis vert de l'armée française je devenais invisible .

 

Donc il est vrai qu'il faut innover et changer ,s'est bon pour l'image ,dommage l'armée française aurait put ce trouvé une variante sympa du multicam avec des couleurs plus foncées ,comme l'on fait les australiens .

 

Bon on sait que nos FS l'emploi à l'occase mais je ne pourrais dire si il a était développé pour eux ou s'est juste un modèle proposé par les fabricants de mulitcam .

 

Pour le treillis FELIN T4 ,la coupe est parfaite ( pour une fois les retex ont servi ) et il manque juste un nouveau camo pour lui donné un look moderne je dirais ,comme dit plus haut un multicam avec des dominances de couleur plus foncées .

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Serge    1607

Au moins ils ont du multicam, suis-je tenté de dire, un bon camo (à mon avis) et au look moderne (la mode, ca compte pour l'image, le moral).

 

Pendant ce temps-là en France, on va passer au Félin T4... toujours en CE :'(

Ma préférence allait vers la solution du camouflage universel pour les équipements complexe et des séquences adaptées au théâtre pour la partie plus vestimentaire.
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Gibbs le Cajun    4809

Tient on rediscute de la possibilité de rouler l'été les manches des tenues de combat dans l'US Army .

Avec la nouvelle tenue cela doit-être plus simple apparemment .

http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2016/06/16/army-test-rolled-sleeves-combat-uniforms-new-pilot-fort-hood/85989880/

Les marines ont toujours porté les manches roulées l'été , et sa fait sourire de savoir que l'armée y pense .

En fait à une époque l'Army les roulé mais d'une manière différente ,enfin avec les anciennes tenues en woodland et les tenues désert :

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Un roulage particulier car on voit le bas de manche avec bouton ,alors que les marines les roulent de manière classique .

 

Avec l'ACU sa devenait compliqué apparemment .

 

Comme dirait Teminal Lance ( un blog tenu par un ancien marine ) , l'Army joue au "mauvais garçon" .

 

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Serge    1607

Ce n'est pas l'US Army mais la Navy.

Elle annonce enfin l'abandon du camouflage anti-tâches pour les troupes à terre :

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Great news! US Navy announces elimination of NWU I blueberries for NWU Type III woodland pattern
WASHINGTON (NNS) — Today, the Navy announced in NAVADMIN 174/16 that it will transition from the Navy Working Uniform (NWU) Type I to the NWU Type III as the service’s primary shore working uniform beginning Oct. 1, 2016.

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Over the next three years, Sailors may wear either the NWU Type I or III, but effective Oct. 1, 2019, all Sailors will be expected to wear the NWU Type III as their primary Working Uniform when ashore or in port.

While the Navy is developing an incremental regional fielding plan for the NWU Type III, this transition period will give Sailors time to prepare for the change and allow them to get maximum wear out of recently purchased NWU Type I uniforms.

“As the CNO and I travel to see Sailors deployed around the world, one of the issues they consistently want to talk about are uniforms,” said Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus. “They want uniforms that are comfortable, lightweight, breathable … and they want fewer of them. We have heard the feedback and we are acting on it. As a direct result of Sailors’ input, effective Oct. 1, we will transition from the NWU Type I to the NWU Type III as our primary shore working uniform.”

This change is the first step in a multi-phased process that will streamline and consolidate the Navy’s uniform requirements, and ultimately improve uniformity across the force. The Navy has listened to Sailors’ feedback and is incorporating their desires to have a working uniform that is better fitting, more breathable and lighter weight.

NWU Type III will be issued to new accessions and recruits beginning Oct. 1, 2017.

Until further policy guidance is promulgated, black boots will be the standard boot worn in the United States and its territories with the NWU Type III. However, expeditionary forces in the United States or any forward deployed forces may wear the desert tan or coyote brown boots at the discretion of the unit commanding officer with the NWU Type III. Additionally, Sailors may wear the NWU Type I black fleece liner.

Sailors will be able to buy NWU Type III components for personal wear through Navy Exchange uniform stores and call centers once there is sufficient inventory on hand.

U.S. Fleet Forces Command (FFC) continues its multi-phase wear test of improved flame resistant variant (IFRV) working uniform components, for shipboard wear. FFC most recently conducted in-depth focus groups with fleet Sailors aimed at refining the design of the IFRV coverall. Additional feedback from the focus groups, subsequently validated by a senior level working group, resulted in the preliminary design of a more professional looking two-piece utility shipboard uniform that can be worn both at sea and operational support jobs ashore. Wear tests of the prototype two-piece variants are expected to occur in 2017.

Also announced in NAVADMIN 174/16:
*    The Navy will transition to the black Cold Weather Parka (CWP) starting Oct. 1, 2018, as outerwear with the Service and Service Dress Uniform. Navy All Weather Coat, Pea Coat and Reefer coat will become optional items. Mandatory wear date for the parka is Oct. 1, 2020.
*    Women, E7 and above, are now authorized to wear men’s uniform khaki pants without the belt and buckle with the khaki over blouse. Gig-line issues prevent wear of the male slacks with the tuck-in shirt.
*    The rollout date of the male Service Dress Blue uniform at Recruit Training Command has been moved to Oct. 1, 2017, due to manufacturing delays. This change also aligns the uniform release with the introduction of the new E1-E6 Service Dress Whites.
*    Navy sweat shirt and pants logo has been replaced with silver reflective lettering “NAVY,” which is similar to the logo on the Navy Physical Training Uniform shirt and shorts. The sweatshirt and pants are now available for purchase at Navy Exchange uniform centers.
*    Commands may now authorize the wear of a “Don’t Tread on Me” and Reverse U.S. Flag patches on NWU Type II and Type III.
*    Approval for the replacement of the Special Warfare Combatant-craft Crewman (SWCC) insignia. Going forward, there will be three separate insignias to denote a Sailor’s specific qualification level, which are SWCC basic, SWCC senior and SWCC master. The implementation date is Aug. 19, 2016, with a mandatory wear date of Oct. 1, 2016.
*    The Navy Uniform Matters Office is in the process of redesigning their website to enhance the dissemination and information regarding recent uniform changes. We expect the site to be running in the coming months.

The Navy continues to conduct a wear test of new women’s khaki pants and is developing options to improve the sizing of women’s khaki pants for E7 and above. We expect that the new women’s khaki pants will be available for purchase in late 2017 or early 2018.

Enlisted clothing replacement allowance will be adjusted to cover costs of these uniform changes and requirements. However, by law, commissioned officers are currently entitled to a one-time uniform stipend ($400), paid at the beginning of their careers. An additional stipend cannot be granted without a change in law.

NAVADMIN 174/16 contains more detail on the uniform changes and can be found at www.npc.navy.mil

 

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