Hugo Boss couturier des nazis ?

[Seal 180]

Bonjour,

 

 

En 1931, Hugo Ferdinand, créateur de la marque Hugo Boss, qui est désormais une marque de luxe incontournable, adhère au NSDAP (Parti Nazi) et est un ami d'Hitler.

Sa société de textile est donc mise à contribution au service du Reich pendant la guerre, s'occupant donc de confectionner des uniformes de SS et de la Wehrmacht.
 

 

 

 

 

Il est de notoriété publique maintenant, que la maison de couture HUGO BOSS a habillée les nazis durant la seconde guerre mondiale. L'info a été relatée partout, sur tout les sites d'informations et les journaux de ce monde. Mais essayons de comprendre vraiment le contexte de l'époque et la démarche du créateur et fondateur, Hugo Boss, pour s'engager de la sorte aux cotés des nazis.

 

En 1931, Boss adhère au parti nazi, parti fondée en 1920, qui, 10 ans après sa création, devient plus populaire que jamais, laissant sur la touche les partis de droite traditionnels. Hugo Boss n'est pas un cas isolé, en allemagne 11 millions de citoyens allemands ont adhérés au parti nazi. Il est aussi vrai que le chef d’entreprise n'a pas pris une part active au génocide des Juifs, cependant personne ne peut nier qu'il a été, consciemment, un rouage, et un acteur, de la guerre et de la terrible opression de cette époque.

 

On peut annoncer clairement, Oui, la maison de couture HUGO BOSS, à produit des uniformes militaires pour le compte des SS, des jeunesses hitlériennes et de la Wehrmacht., de 1933 à 1945.

 

 

Les nazis on sauver l'entreprise, notamment par de grosses commandes, qui ont "contraint", la maison Hugo Boss, d'avoir recours à de la main-d'œuvre dites "forcés", des travailleurs majoritairement français et polonais. A la fin de la guerre, Hugo Ferdinand Boss reçut une amende de 80 000 marks et fut privé de droits civiques. C'est son gendre Eugen Holy qui repris ensuite l'entreprise pour la lèguer finalement à ses deux fils, qui firent de la maison de couture Hugo Boss, une célèbre entreprise internationale.

 

C'est le Washington Post qui révéla le passé nazis de l'entreprise. La maison Hugo Boss, dans le souci de couper court aux «déclarations vagues sur son passé», demanda à l’historienne Elisabeth Timm, une étude sur ses activités pendant la guerre et jusqu'à la fin des années 1990. Mais l’ouvrage ne fut pas publié. En 2000, la société Hugo Boss versa une somme de 500 000 livres sterlings au Fonds d'indemnisation des anciens travailleurs forcés, en compensation du travail effectué pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale.

 

 

 

Difficile aujourd'hui de savoir si l'implication de la maison Hugo Boss aux côté des nazis, était un engagement politique, dû aux opinions extrémistes de son fondateur, ou simplement une manière de sauver l'entreprise.

 

 

 

 

Source : http://www.chromodesomey.fr/2014/05/mode-couture-2.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Seal 180]

[Kiriyama 2016]

Pour Hugo Boss j'avais créé un sujet là-dessus il y a pas mal de temps. 

 

Mais la plupart des grandes entreprises allemandes ont été liées à l'Allemagne nazie (logique), qu'il s'agisse de Mercedes, Bayer, Siemens.

 

Et d'autres sont apparues directement grâce au régime nazi, dont effectivement Hugo Boss, mais aussi Volkswagen et BMW. 

[Alexis 5076]

Le super char Tigre fut créé par Ferdinand Porsche, qui ne se reconvertit que plus tard dans la voiture de sport.

 

La fameuse "Coccinelle" de Volkswagen était initialement la réponse du régime nazi à la Ford T la voiture de M. tout le monde version américaine. Le nom même "Volkswagen" signifie littéralement "la voiture du peuple" et est d'origine nazie, le "peuple" en question étant le peuple aryen germanique supérieur.

 

On peut multiplier les exemples...

[g4lly 8049]

D'un coté il est assez difficile de voir une entreprise allemande survivre au régime nazi alors qu'elle s'y serait opposé!!! Il serait aussi étonnant de voir une entreprise allemande non mise a contribution a l'effort de guerre ...

 

Si on peut juger quelques choses c'est plutôt dans l'entrain qu'on mis certain a participer au truc ...

 

Toutes les entreprise allemandes on exploité des dizaine de milliers de travailleurs forcés chacune par exemple, essentiellement pour générer d'énorme profit. Et aujourd'hui tout le monde s'en fout ... Bosch, Audi, Mercedes, BMW, BASF ... ont largement profité du régime.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2663635/Revealed-How-Nazis-helped-German-companies-Bosch-Mercedes-Deutsche-Bank-VW-VERY-rich-using-slave-labor.html

 

Revealed: How the Nazis helped German companies Bosch, Mercedes, Deutsche Bank and VW get VERY rich using 300,000 concentration camp slaves

 

    List of companies a 'Who's Who' of modern German industrial might

    Some companies still to come clean with their business dealings

    Bayer used 20,000 slaves but official history brushes Nazi period

    Deutsche and others enriched themselves seizing Jewish businesses

 

By Alan Hall In Berlin Published: 13:28 GMT, 20 June 2014 | Updated: 19:24 GMT, 20 June 2014

 

The colossal extent of slave labour used by modern-day German blue-chip companies to get rich during the Third Reich has been laid bare by the nation's top business magazine.

 

WirtschaftsWoche has published a league table illustrating the Nazi past of top German firms like Bosch, Mercedes, Deutsche Bank, VW and many others, which involved the use of almost 300,000 slaves.

 

The league table follows revelations earlier that Audi, which was known as Auto Union during the Nazi period, was a big exploiter of concentration camp supplied slave labor, using 20,000 concentration camp inmates in its factories.

 

Slave labour: Jewish slave workers in striped uniforms work in a Nazi ammunition factory near Dachau concentration camp during World War II. WirtschaftsWoche has published a league table illustrating the Nazi past of top German firms like Bosch, Mercedes, Deutsche Bank, VW and many others, which involved the use of almost 300,000 slaves

 

Slave labour: Jewish slave workers in striped uniforms work in a Nazi ammunition factory near Dachau concentration camp during World War II. WirtschaftsWoche has published a league table illustrating the Nazi past of top German firms like Bosch, Mercedes, Deutsche Bank, VW and many others, which involved the use of almost 300,000 slaves

 

Old and young: The league table follows revelations earlier that Audi, which was known as Auto Union during the Nazi period, was a big exploiter of concentration camp supplied slave labor, using 20,000 concentration camp inmates, such as this young boy, in its factories

 

Old and young: The league table follows revelations earlier that Audi, which was known as Auto Union during the Nazi period, was a big exploiter of concentration camp supplied slave labor, using 20,000 concentration camp inmates, such as this young boy, in its factories

 

Many of the companies listed by WirtschaftsWoche have already had internal reckonings with their Nazi past.

 

In 2011, the dynasty behind the BMW luxury car marker admitted, after decades of silence, to using slave labour, taking over Jewish firms and doing business with the highest echelons of the Nazi party during World War Two.

 

Nazi favourite: Hitler speaks at the opening ceremony of the Volkswagen car factory in Fallersleben, Germany, in 1938. Volkwagen used 12,000 slave labourers under the Nazis

 

Nazi favourite: Hitler speaks at the opening ceremony of the Volkswagen car factory in Fallersleben, Germany, in 1938. Volkwagen used 12,000 slave labourers under the Nazis

 

Gabriele Quandt, whose grandfather Guenther employed an estimated 50,000 forced labourers in his arms factories, producing ammunition, rifles, artillery and U-boat batteries, said it was 'wrong' for the family to ignore this chapter of its history.

 

But BMW were not the only German firm to profit from the sudden influx of slave labour.

 

Daimler, which owns Mercedes, admitted as far back as 1986 that it had employed 40,000 forced labourers under appalling conditions during the war enabling it to reap massive profits.

 

Electrical giant Bosch used 20,000 slaves while steelmaker ThyssenKrupp used a staggering 75,000.

 

VW, builder of the 'People's Car' that morphed postwar in the VW Beetle, e mployed 12,000 slaves in the most terrible of conditions at its plant in Wolfsburg. The chemical and pharmaceutical behemoths BASF, Bayer and Hoechst employed 80,000 slaves.

 

Bayer celebrated its 150th anniversary last year with no mention in the official blurb about the Nazi years from 1933 to 1945.

 

And chemical manufacturer IG Farben even had a factory inside Auschwitz death camp that used prison labour in the production of synthetic rubber and oil.

 

However, their most ghastly act was in the sale of Zyklon B - the poison used in the Nazi gas chambers. At its peak in 1944, this factory made use of 83,000 slave laborers.

 

There were also companies which enriched themselves through Nazi rule with Publishing giant Bertelsmann grew rich publishing gung-ho pro war books for Hitler Youth members and, according to Handelsblatt, 'profited massively' from contracts with the German armed forced at the Nazi Party central headquarters in Munich.

 

A car for a fuhrer: Adolf Hitler waves to crowds in his six-seater Mercedes car in this undated World War II photograph. Mercedes are one of a host of German companies that helped the Nazis

 

Germany's largest bank, Deutsche, did not employ slaves but became hugely wealthy under Nazism. The bank sacked all Jewish directors when the Nazis came to power and from 1938 onwards became the richest in Germany by taking part in the 'Aryanising' - or taking over - of Jewish-owned businesses.

 

Train builder and electrical engineering giant Siemens still plays its cards close to its chest about wartime activities.

 

The research director of the German Museum in Berlin said that what it has admitted so far about its past is merely a 'house history'. Companies such as the sporting goods supplier Adidas and the high street retailer C&A are still working on company histories about their time under Nazism.

 

HOW MANY SLAVES DID GERMAN FIRMS TAKE FROM THE NAZIS?

 

1. IG Farben - 83,000

 

2. BASF, Bayer and Hoechst - 80,000

 

3. ThyssenKrupp - 75,000

 

4. BMW - 50,000

 

5. Daimler (Mercedes) - 40,000

 

6. Bosch - 20,000

 

7. Audi - 20,000

 

8. VW - 12,000

 

Top German companies a decade ago contributed £3billion into a fund to compensate forced labourers enslaved in Third Reich factories.

 

Under a programme organised by Fritz Sauckel - who was hanged at Nuremberg for war crimes - over two million people were brought to Germany from conquered lands to work for the new master race.

 

Many of these went to private companies, like VW and BASF, while tens of thousands more were conscripted to work under the most appalling conditions producing weaponry.

 

These included the slaves who built the V1 and V2 Rockets and other massive construction projects, such as the Valentin submarine base in Bremen.

 

The Nazis differed from other regimes throughout histroy which used slave labour. Romans and Greeks, for example, valued and revered their forced labourers wile the Nazis treated them with immense crulety.

 

VW, for example, had something called the ‘dying room’  where female forced labourers who gave birth had to leave their newborns to die.

 

Most of the agricultural slaves came from the occupied eastern territories of Poland, the Baltic states and Russia. Because the Slavik people were regarded as subhuman in the Nazi racial lexicon, casualty rates among them were the highest of all.

 

Dark past: Chemical manufacturer IG Farben even had a factory inside Auschwitz (pictured) that used prison labour in the production of synthetic rubber and oil. However, their most ghastly act was in the sale of Zyklon B - the poison used in the Nazi gas chambers. At its peak in 1944, this factory made use of 83,000 slave laborers

 

Mercedes used slave labour during Nazi rule of Germany

 

Slave labourers were used after the 1943 Dambuster raid to repair the breached dams in the Ruhr Valley and many French workers were press-ganged into backbreaking work building Hitler’s Atlantic wall meant to stave off a seaborne invasion launched from England.

 

BASF built a plant at Auschwitz to produce synthetic rubber and inmates there had a life expectancy measured in weeks. Soviet PoWs concripted to work in Nazi industrial plants suffered death rates of between 90 and 97 per cent.

 

BMW: Dynasty used 50,000 slave labourers under Nazis

 

Family secret: Guenther Quandt, whose family now owns BMW, used slave labourers during World War Two in his weapons factories in Germany

 

In 2011, after decades of silence, the dynasty behind the BMW luxury car marker admitted using slave labour, taking over Jewish firms and doing business with the highest echelons of the Nazi party during World War Two.

 

Gabriele Quandt, whose grandfather Guenther employed an estimated 50,000 forced labourers in his arms factories, producing ammunition, rifles, artillery and U-boat batteries, said it was 'wrong' for the family to ignore this chapter of its history.

 

He spoke out after an in-depth study by Bonn-based historian Joachim Scholtyseck, commissioned by the family, that concluded Guenther Quandt and his son Herbert were responsible for numerous Nazi injustices.

 

It found Guenther acquired companies through the Nazi programme of 'Aryanisation' of Jewish-owned firms.

 

Herbert Quandt was 'part of the system', son Stefan Quandt said after the conclusion of the three-year study - forced on the family by public outrage over a German TV documentary - compiled using company files from the 12-year period of the Third Reich.

 

The Quandt family bought into BMW 15 years after the War.

 

Guenther became a Nazi Party member on May 1, 1933, a month after Adolf Hitler achieved supreme power in Germany.

 

But he had long used a network of party officials and Wehrmacht officers to build up contacts for lucrative state contracts.

 

Married to Magda Behrend Rietschel, Guenther was divorced by her in 1929 although they remained on friendly terms.

 

She went on to marry the 'poison dwarf' of the Nazi party, the propaganda maestro Joseph Goebbels, and would die with him - after murdering their six children - in Hitler's bunker in 1945.

 

The company grew rich in the Nazi era. In 1937, Hitler bestowed on Guenther the title Wehrwirtschaftsführer - leader of the armament economy - and his business supplied weapons using slave labourers from concentration camps in at least three factories.

 

Hundreds of these labourers died.

 

An execution area to murder those who displeased their masters was found in one of his plants in Hannover and the study mentions the fate of a Polish man who was hanged at another plant in front of 50 other inmates.

 

An AFA technician repairing a battery cell in a German type IX boat in 1942. AFA was owned by Gunther Quandt and manufactured batteries and accumulators for the German military

 

The study showed that the Quandt firms also used Russian POWs as slave labourers and that Guenther and Herbert knew about them, detailing their dispersion among their empire from the company HQ in Berlin.

 

Herbert even employed Ukrainian slaves on his weekend retreat outside the Reich capital.

 

Guenther was described as an 'opportunist' who enthusiastically helped the regime to rid Berlin industries of Jewish workers before the start of the war.

 

This was despite his numerous contacts with Jewish bankers in the years before the Nazis began their climb to power.

 

He was also 'unscrupulous' in his take-overs of Jewish firms which were forcibly sold for a pittance to loyal German industrialists such as himself.

 

'The family patriarch was part of the Nazi regime', judged the historian in the 1,200 page study.

 

'The Quandts connected themselves inseparably with the crimes of the National Socialists.'

 

BMW, of which the Quandts became major shareholders 15 years after the war, was not implicated in the documentary.

 

'We were treated terribly and had to drink water from the toilets. We were also whipped,' said Takis Mylopoulos, a forced labourer who worked in Quandt's Hannover plant.

 

In 1946 Guenther Quandt was arrested and interned. To the surprise of many, he was judged to be a 'Mitlaufer', or fellow traveller -  namely someone who accepted the Nazi ideology but did not take an active part in crimes.

 

He was released in January 1948.

 

One of the prosecutors in the Nuremberg trials, Benjamin Ferencz, now says that if today's evidence against him had been presented to the court at the time,'Quandt would have been charged with the same offences as the directors of IG Farben' - the makers of the gas used to murder the Jews at Auschwitz.

 

Quandt was able to re-install himself in the supervisory boards of various German firms such as Deutsche Bank. He also became an honorary citizen of the University in Frankfurt in 1951.

 

He died on holiday in Cairo on December 30, 1954.

 

KRUPP, DAIMLER-BENZ, BASF, DEUTSCHE BANK  AND I G FARBEN... THE SHAMEFUL NAZI CONNECTION

 

The two most powerful Nazi industrialists, Alfried Krupp of Krupp Industries and Friedrich Flick, whose Flick Group eventually owned a 40 per cent stake in Daimler-Benz, had been central figures in the Nazi economy.

 

Their companies used slave labourers like cattle, to be worked to death.

 

The Krupp company soon became one of Europe's leading industrial combines.

 

The Flick Group also quickly built up a new pan-European business empire. Friedrich Flick remained unrepentant about his wartime record and refused to pay a single Deutschmark in compensation until his death in July 1972 at the age of 90, when he left a fortune of more than $1billion, the equivalent of £400million at the time.

 

'For many leading industrial figures close to the Nazi regime, Europe became a cover for pursuing German national interests after the defeat of Hitler,' says historian Dr Michael Pinto-Duschinsky, an adviser to Jewish former slave labourers.

 

'The continuity of the economy of Germany and the economies of post-war Europe is striking. Some of the leading figures in the Nazi economy became leading builders of the European Union.'

 

Numerous household names had exploited slave and forced labourers including BMW, Siemens and Volkswagen, which produced munitions and the V1 rocket.

 

Slave labour was an integral part of the Nazi war machine. Many concentration camps were attached to dedicated factories where company officials worked hand-in-hand with the SS officers overseeing the camps.

 

Hermann Abs, post-war Germany's most powerful banker, had prospered in the Third Reich.

 

Dapper, elegant and diplomatic, Abs joined the board of Deutsche Bank, Germany's biggest bank, in 1937. As the Nazi empire expanded, Deutsche Bank enthusiastically 'Aryanised' Austrian and Czechoslovak banks that were owned by Jews.

 

By 1942, Abs held 40 directorships, a quarter of which were in countries occupied by the Nazis. Many of these Aryanised companies used slave labour and by 1943 Deutsche Bank's wealth had quadrupled.

 

Abs also sat on the supervisory board of I.G. Farben, as Deutsche Bank's representative. I.G. Farben was one of Nazi Germany's most powerful companies, formed out of a union of BASF, Bayer, Hoechst and subsidiaries in the Twenties.

 

It was so deeply entwined with the SS and the Nazis that it ran its own slave labour camp at Auschwitz, known as Auschwitz III, where tens of thousands of Jews and other prisoners died producing artificial rubber.

 

When they could work no longer, or were verbraucht (used up) in the Nazis' chilling term, they were moved to Birkenau. There they were gassed using Zyklon B, the patent for which was owned by I.G. Farben.

 

But like all good businessmen, I.G. Farben's bosses hedged their bets.

 

During the war the company had financed Ludwig Erhard's research. After the war, 24 I.G. Farben executives were indicted for war crimes over Auschwitz III - but only 12 of the 24 were found guilty and sentenced to prison terms ranging from one-and-a-half to eight years.

 

I.G. Farben got away with mass murder.

 

Extract from a 2009 Mail Online article by Adam Lebor.

 

AUDI: 'Firmly ensnared' in Nazi regime

 

Car giant Audi employed thousands of concentration camp inmates during the Second World War and was 'firmly ensnared' in the Nazi regime, an investigation found last month.

 

During the war years, Audi was known as Group Auto Union and, in a deal brokered by the SS, hired 3,700 concentration camp inmates to work in what was then Germany’s second biggest car firm.

 

The academic study also revealed another 16,500 forced laborers, who were not imprisoned in concentration camps, were working in Auto Union plants.

Dark history: Car giant Audi, then called Auto Union, employed thousands of concentration camp inmates during the Second World War, an investigation has found

 

Dark history: Car giant Audi, then called Auto Union, employed thousands of concentration camp inmates during the Second World War, an investigation has found

 

Authors of the study, economic historian Rudolf Boch of the University of Chemnitz, and Martin Kukowski, head of the Department of history at Audi, were granted access to the Audi archives for the first time for their 'house cleaning' history of the firm.

 

Their book, Wartime Economy And Labour Usage Of Auto Union Chemnitz AG During The Second World War, centres on the firm, which was the only serious competitor to Mercedes during the 12 year lifespan of the Third Reich, with a 20 percent market share for luxury cars.

 

During the war some of the plants were turned over to military production, churning out tanks and air-craft engines.

 

The 500 page report claims that Auto Union - now Volkswagen’s luxury marque Audi - built its success on the back of human misery and suffering, and that founder Dr Richard Bruhn was largely  responsible for the firm's large-scale exploitation of forced labour.

 

'More than 20,000 forced laborers were used in the production of Auto Union in their Saxon works, including almost one-fifth from concentration camps,' said the study authors.

 

Conditions in the concentration camp in the city of Zwickau, where many workers were held, were particularly appalling with 1,000 prisoners - many of them forced labourers from France - living in unheated barracks.

 

'The conditions were devastating,' said the historians.

 

The researchers also discovered that disabled workers were shipped north to the Flossenburg concentration camp to be executed, and their numbers replaced with prisoners from that camp.

 

Towards the end of the war, 688 Zwickau inmates were sent on a death march to Karlovy Vary, now in the Czech Republic, with almost half of them dying on the way.

 

Audi recognised its wartime guilt in using forced labour more a decade ago, paying massive amounts into the £3billion fund which German industry set up to compensate Nazi slave workers and their descendants.

 

The company was founded in 1932 following a merger of four car makers, and dropped the Auto Union name after a further merger in 1985.

[Kiriyama 2016]

Oui, je ne dis pas le contraire, les entreprises adhéraient au régime nazi de gré ou de force. 

 

Ferdinand Porsche cela dit était un nazi convaincu. 

[collectionneur 1569]

Et pour Hugo Boss, l'entreprise à fournit les uniformes au parti AVANT qu'il accède au pouvoir comme il est indiqué plus haut. En 1924, le parti nazi n'était qu'un ''groupuscule'' en exagérant un peu. Faisait il des prix d'ami ou cela était un client comme un autre ? ...

[Rochambeau 633]

Hugo Ferdinand Boss était bien un nazi convaincu, il a rejoint le parti avant son ascension en 1933. Il y a même eu une action en justice pour esclavagisme ou il semble t-il exploité des prisonniers français et polonais dans l'un des nombreux camps de concentration.

[die kraft 43]

d'un autre coté il y a pas mal d'entreprises qui on (bossé) pour le régime nazi et qui ont pignon sur rue de no jours la liste est longue et en surprendrai plus d'un moi le premier...

http://www.hamodia.fr/article.php?id=5670

[Rob1 2134]

Trouvé dans un bouquin :

Citation

 

Selon la formule d'un observateur, « à cette époque, il existait
deux races de financiers et de spéculateurs. Ceux qui, comme Joe Kennedy, affichaient des
sympathies nazies mais ne faisaient pas d'affaires avec l'Allemagne nazie, et les autres
qui n'éprouvaient pas d'engouement particulier pour Hitler mais saisissaient les
opportunités ».

 

 

[die kraft 43]

de toute façon la trahison est une question de date ....et en affaire je vous laisse deviner ..

[Alexis 5076]

Le 8/5/2016 à 16:30, die kraft a dit :

d'un autre coté il y a pas mal d'entreprises qui on (bossé) pour le régime nazi et qui ont pignon sur rue de no jours la liste est longue et en surprendrai plus d'un moi le premier...

http://www.hamodia.fr/article.php?id=5670

Ce qui crée cet effet de surprise, au fond, c'est cette fiction sur laquelle est basée une bonne partie du droit des affaires, du droit commercial etc., celle d'une "personnalité" des entreprises.

La fiction est fort utile quand il s'agit d'expliquer, par exemple, pourquoi une entreprise n'appartient pas à ses salariés, mais à ceux qui possèdent son capital.

Mais une autre de ses conséquences est qu'à la différence des personnalités réelles, qui sont bien évidemment différentes en Allemagne de ce qu'elles étaient à l'époque nazie - Monsieur Schmidt n'a rien à voir avec son grand-père même si celui-ci était un nazi, Mademoiselle Brandt n'a rien à voir avec son arrière-grand-père même s'il était SS - les personnalités fictives que sont les entreprises n'ont elles pas de raison d'avoir changé.

Enfin, dans certains cas, elles ont changé de nom tout de même. Il vaut sans doute mieux pour IG Farben, producteur du fameux Zyklon B le poison utilisé pour les massacres par chambre à gaz, s'appeler aujourd'hui BASF...

 

[die kraft 43]

Il y a 11 heures, Alexis a dit :

Ce qui crée cet effet de surprise, au fond, c'est cette fiction sur laquelle est basée une bonne partie du droit des affaires, du droit commercial etc., celle d'une "personnalité" des entreprises.

La fiction est fort utile quand il s'agit d'expliquer, par exemple, pourquoi une entreprise n'appartient pas à ses salariés, mais à ceux qui possèdent son capital.

Mais une autre de ses conséquences est qu'à la différence des personnalités réelles, qui sont bien évidemment différentes en Allemagne de ce qu'elles étaient à l'époque nazie - Monsieur Schmidt n'a rien à voir avec son grand-père même si celui-ci était un nazi, Mademoiselle Brandt n'a rien à voir avec son arrière-grand-père même s'il était SS - les personnalités fictives que sont les entreprises n'ont elles pas de raison d'avoir changé.

Enfin, dans certains cas, elles ont changé de nom tout de même. Il vaut sans doute mieux pour IG Farben, producteur du fameux Zyklon B le poison utilisé pour les massacres par chambre à gaz, s'appeler aujourd'hui BASF...

 

il est vrais que celui qui est a l'origine du zyklon b  est étonnant aussi...

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haber

 

[Alexis 5076]

il y a une heure, die kraft a dit :

il est vrais que celui qui est a l'origine du zyklon b  est étonnant aussi...

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haber

Personnage fascinant de fait...

Inventeur du procédé de production des engrais artificiels qui a permis de nourrir tant d'hommes - et soutien décidé de la guerre chimique afin d'obtenir la victoire dans la Grande Guerre pour la seule nation civilisée, l'Allemagne. Avant d'être rejetée par la même quelques années plus tard du fait de sa mère juive, lorsqu'elle se fut choisi Hitler comme chef, et de mourir en exil, ce qui du moins lui évita d'apprendre que le Zyklon B dont le procédé de production avait été mis au point par son laboratoire devait servir plus tard à tuer des millions d'hommes, pour la plupart des Juifs.

Tout comme le personnage de Clara Immerwahr sa première épouse. Et son suicide en 1915, peut-être en partie parce qu'il avait une liaison, mais surtout parce que, chimiste elle-même, elle se refusait de voir la chimie servir à produire des poisons de masse utilisés pour les combats.