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Le F-35

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36 minutes ago, kalligator said:

QCD signifie quoi ?

Qualité Coût Délai. C'est un triangle explicatif en gestion de projet (juste un exemple). Si tu t'éloignes d'un des sommets (QCD) tu t'approches des autres. La surspédcification (qualité) coute du temps et de l'argent, le retard du temps et de la qualité etc.

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il y a 58 minutes, kalligator a dit :

En plus l'article n'est pas à charge contre l'engin mais plutôt flatteur en général

Ce n'est tout simplement pas un article : c'est un publi-reportage mensonger de bout en bout !

Voir le gars gloser sur les super-capacités de maintenance prédictives d'Alis et les gains de productivité induits par le logiciels, quand on compare avec les rapports officiels peut être déjà édulcorés, mais qui s'entassent année après année en répétant qu'il y a super-pénurie de pièces de rechange, qu'il y a régulièrement des faux-positifs (pièces marquées "à changer" alors qu'elles sont OK), qu'ALIS marche si mal qu'il faut que les équipes utilisent d'autres outils pour effectuer certaines tâches, qu'ils tiennent à jour d'autres bases de données, qu'ils fassent de la saisie en double (passionnant !) avec toutes les erreurs que ça induit forcément et qu'au final le bestiau est systématiquement à la ramasse sur ses chiffres de disponibilité, pourtant très aimablement conçus ("capacité à accomplir l'une des missions prévues" ; show of force à 20km de la base, ça compte comme mission ça ? :mechantc: ), bon, ben... on sait qu'il cotise pour sa piscine.

(non-)journaliste canadien pour ce que j'en ai vu, c'est la seule partie honnête de l'article. L'information donnée "en passant" au début, un peu cachée : LM lui a payé le voyage.

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J'ai pas eu la patience de lire tout l'article, mais quand ils s'extasient sur la modularité des composants, ça m'amuse bien. Je croyais que c'était "yesterday's technology", ah non, ça c'est uniquement quand c'est sur Rafale et que ça marche pour de vrai.

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Il y a 10 heures, rendbo a dit :

Ensuite on les a imprimer et on a commencé la pate sablée, mise au four et TADAAAAA !!!! 

  Révéler le texte masqué

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Honnêtement, je pense qu'on va mettre cette fournée sur le CV, il sera embauché direct !

Puis-je abuser, rendbo, et te demander comment tu insères du texte masqué ? Je postes toujours depuis mon tél et n’ai jamais trouvé la fonctionnalité.

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Test

Révélation

Ça marche ?)

Merci Rufus : je suis trop con, même si «  révélation » c’est abscons, pourquoi n’avais je pas testé ?!

Saturnisme, je ne vois que ça !)

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Il y a 6 heures, Rufus Shinra a dit :

Dans les boutons du cadre d'écriture de message, sur la deuxième ligne, il y a un œil. Cliques dessus pour avoir le cadre de texte caché.

pas mieux :rolleyes:

Il y a 6 heures, Hirondelle a dit :

Merci Rufus : je suis trop con, même si «  révélation » c’est abscons, pourquoi n’avais je pas testé ?!

Nan, t'as raison de ne pas tester un truc qui n'est pas explicite, ça aurait pu être le bouton des missiles nucléaires...

 

 

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A lire absolument :

rapport australien sur les dérapages (et il y a aussi du mieux) des coûts du f-35.

 

 

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Le 20/12/2019 à 19:04, rendbo a dit :

Nan, t'as raison de ne pas tester un truc qui n'est pas explicite, ça aurait pu être le bouton des missiles nucléaires...

"Révélation" en grec ancien, ça donne "apocalypse", donc il y a une certaine logique...

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Une interview d'un pilote de f-35 pour un journal belge :

https://www.hangarflying.eu/2016/07/f-35-de-toekomst-voor-onze-luchtmacht/

Révélation

F-35: the future for our Air Force?
Tom Brinckman July 14, 2016
We meet Billie Flynn (53) at the F-35's 1:1 model. Before joining Lockheed Martin, he was a 23-year-old CF-18 pilot and colonel in the Canadian Air Force. He flew combat missions over Kosovo and after his military career as a test pilot went to work on Typhoon, Tornado and finally the F-16. He totals more than 5,000 flight hours in 80 different aircraft types. In June 2012, he was the 39th pilot to fly with the F-35. In short, the ideal person to explain to us about the F-35.

What is the biggest difference between a 4th and 5th generation fighter plane?
Billie Flynn: "In short: stealth and sensor technology. I can watch 360 degrees around my plane, up to hundreds of kilometers away. All I need to know is read off on that screen in an understandable way."
"With stealth, we make the F-35 less easily detectable. That's not to say we're completely invisible. But enough to go on a goal without anyone knowing you're here. I see everything, but they don't see me."
"In addition to the typical tasks such as air defense, air strike and ground attack, the F35 also takes an important place in reconnaissance platform," Flynn continues. "The F-35 is a computer that can collect information from all sensors and send them to the commanders. An unprecedented wealth of information on the battlefield. They already get that information, but they do get from aircraft in the format of large transport equipment. Now 1 or 2 F-35s will be able to take over that task."

As far as we are concerned, it seems like a rather 'American' device... large and made for a multitude of tasks that we as a small air force do not need. Why does the Belgian Air Force have to buy the F-35?
"40 Years ago Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark and the United States became partner countries with the purchase of the F-16. In that 40-year career, the F-16 evolved and adapted to the current needs of the Air Force. Instead of buying an aircraft that already needs a midlife update when you buy or is already almost at the end of his career, the F-35 is almost the same as the F-16 back then. It will also evolve and adapt to the needs of the next 30 to 40 years."
"To answer the second part of your question," Flynn picks up. "What is very important for the fighter pilot? The danger is now air-target missiles that are deadly up to 150 km away. So long before you've entered the airspace. A plane that can be detected will not survive a mission. An airplane with the characteristics of the F-35 does."
"The way of waging war has changed a lot. Just like in the early days of the F-18 where I started my career. We flew three different missions that were previously flown by three different aircraft. Now we have learned that both air defense, air strikes, ground attack strikes can carry out with one fighter plane."
"Interoperability between NATO partners also plays a role. As in the TLP programme that took place in Florennes for a long time and still exists in Spain. There pilots come together and practice together and share tactics. Even as F-35 pilots, we assume that principle, it doesn't matter if you're Dutch, Dane, Norwegian or British, we share all the tactics."

How does the F-35 fly compared to our F-16?
"For starters, we already have more fuel on board than an F-16 on board with both internal and external drop tanks. With that almost 9,000 kg of fuel, I fly 40% further and longer than any other fighter plane I've already flown. That's in the stealthiest configuration where, for example, in the two internal arms rooms 2 x 2,000-pound GBU-31 JDAM laser-guided bombs and 2 x AIM-120C air missiles are on board. So we do not have air resistance from external drop tanks or weapons and we still reach the speed limit of the F-35, which is about mach 1.6. As a test pilot, I do so regularly; for fourth-generation aircraft where everything hangs under the wing, the speed limit can no longer be reached. We can also continue to draw the maximum G-forces."
"If stealth plays no role, there are 11 weapons stations under the wings for a whole arsenal of bombs and missiles. The standard version (F-35A), which is also in the running for Belgium, also has a 25 mm GAU-22/A cannon on board. In addition, a variant that can land vertically (F-35B) and a navy variant (F-35C(V)) for use on aircraft carriers."
"Another plus is that all the systems are internal. For example, the sniper pod that now also hangs under the F-16 is now built under the nose. Also at Typhoon of Gripen such a pod must be purchased separately. The electronic warfare protection, say the jammingpod is also incorporated into the F-35. The device is delivered with everything on it, no need to purchase extras."

What's different for the pilot?
"The screens in the cockpit and especially the helmet that projects everything for my eyes what I need to fly. What information? Everything that was projected on to a HUD (Head Up Display). The composite image of the 6 infrared sensors strategically placed around the F-35 also give me unseen images. On a night flight, you can look down exactly the plane like the plane's not here. You look almost as good at night as during the day without extra night vision goggles. So spatial awareness is rising dramatically. It took us years to develop the helmet, but now more than 300 pilots are already working with it. Everyone likes to fly with it!"

It's mainly a computer-controlled plane. Is it still necessary to really fly?
"Of course you still have to be able to control the jet well, but you will fly it differently from the current generation of planes. It's no longer comparable to Top Gun as Tom Cruise and Val Kilmer flew (laughs). That's over, we can do a dogfight before the fun on Friday afternoon, but that's not the way the F-35 has to be flown. The F-16 is small and fast, the Lightning II is pure power, my Lord, if you turn on the afterburner you'll be gone very quickly."

The F-35 is mainly focused on international cooperation?
"Cooperation is the key word. Small countries buy small numbers of F-35s (*) to form a larger coalition together. Everyone sits on the same wavelength, including the layered secrecy. Not everyone will have access to the same information as pilots or support personnel. There is also international cooperation on the use of tactics and planning."
"At Luke Air Force Base in the U.S. state of Arizona, there is the grandly established international school to train the pilots of all partner countries. We teach everyone all the tactics to use the F-35 operationally. We are at the start of the fifth generation so we teach everyone to fly on an equal footing with that new generation. We're not going to repeat old F-16 procedures but start all over again from scratch. For example, that was one of the mistakes made in our Canadian Air Force in the past: we flew the new CF-18s according to the tactics we had already used with the F-104 Starfighter and F-101 Voodoo. We lost a few years until we realized that with a totally different aircraft other tactics should also be used."

The final word is for the Chamber's National Defence Committee, which currently hear experts and academics, both civilians and military, to decide which of the five contenders will replace our current fighter planes. By the end of 2016, the federal government will have to give its permission to start the recruitment phase, which runs from the end of 2016 to mid-2018.
Tom Brinckman

 

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Je suis curieux de voir les vols Bruxelles -  La réunion 

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